◆Ethnology and cultural anthropology differs in the “the scope of the target they deal with” from folklore.
―We have heard that you are specialized in dance ethnology. Could you tell us the difference among ethnology, folklore and anthropology?
Folklore is a rather limited concept. For example, ethnology deals with Kabuki and Noh, and even modern jazz dance, but folklore does not deal with these theme. Ethnology is characteristic in the meaning that it deals with wide range of targets. Anthropology is in a close relation with ethnology and it even ovelaps in some fields.
In Japan, Mr. Sasamori (Mr. Takefusa Sasamori, specialized in ethnomusicology) is famous in this field.
◆Probe the cultural background from the shape change of the dance
― What do you study in dance ethnology?
We start from studying the meaning of the movement, observe the change of the shape of the dance, and we study the cultural background of the dance. For example, during the Chinese Revolution, the Beijing Dance imported Russian Ballet and blended it. The factor of propaganda was large, but by this, the shape of the dance, for example, the movement of raising the hand had changed. To grasp these changes of the shape of the dance, and probe what is in its background is one section of dance ethnology
In ethnology, there are many kinds of sections, such as music, dance, and history. Each of these put in the view point of “who” and “why”, and arrange it. What is the basis of you?
―Our basis is “history”
It is so. In dance ethnology, the important thing is, how you observe the relation between culture and dance
―In what opportunity did you decide to major in dance ethnology in the beginning?
At first, I was doing the analisys of the dance only. However, I couldn’t answer at first to the question by the students, “Why did it turn out to be to that movement?” From these reasons, I started to study dance ethnology in the meaning of searching the backgrounds of how the dance was born.
―In which field are you giving the highest priority?
I am studying Korean dance for more than 30 years. Korean dance is not a community dance, it has technical movements, and there are many types of dances. It is something very interesting. I have brought a book I wrote. “Perspectives on Korean Dance”. Please read it.
―Are there any point in common between Japanese dance and Korean dance?
I am frequently asked the same question by the Korean people, but I think there are not many direct points in common. As for Shin-Buyoh, Korean people call this Shim-muyoh, and there are certain degree of influence to Korean dance from it.
◆About Bon Dance
―What kind of meaning was there for you in studying Bon Dance?
I think I could establish the perspective of dance ethnology by studying Bon Dance. There are fewer dance patterns compared to Kabuki, namely it is the repetition of 12 to 13 dance patterns, so it was easier to analyze. I have been watching Bon Dance ever since I started studying Bon Dance, but I have not engaged in a real study after that.
―What do you think is the characteristics of Bon Dance?
First of all, the dance is single unit (It is not a dance that the upper half of the body and the lower half of the body move differently). I think the reason for this is that the clothes, namely the yukata is becoming the restriction of the body movement. And also, the fact that the dance is not strict. Everyone is dancing in the way they want, and I think it is very lax. When you actually go to see it, everyone is loose. It is interesting.
―I found in the book you wrote, and we too agree to the fact that the looseness and the easiness to enter the dancing circle are the characteristics of Bon Dance. What do you think about the relation with the events?
Oh, you are talking about the relation with Buddhism. For instance, Miko-mai (shrine maiden’s dance) is integrated into the religious ceremony. I think Bon Dance is related with the ceremony, but it is not a part of the ceremony. For example, even though it is performed in the same temple, it is performed after the Bon events are finished; so I think there is a classification like this.
―I see. In case of Japan, there are Bon of the temple, and Bon of the village, so we can see the classification in these meanings.Certainly this is the point. In Japan, some dances die out when there is nobody to succeed the chorus leader. Are there similar problems in Hawaii?
It depends on the case. Bon Dance Clubs are maintained, and each of them are continuing the practice.
―Are there any Bon events in Hawaii?
We decorate the grave, and it could be a little bit commercial, but we send off the spirits of the dead on lanterns floated on the waters of North Shore.
―What is the characteristics of the Bon Dance in Hawaii?
There are different flavor for each temple. Since Bon Dance Groups make rounds to the temples one after another, we can consider that the period of the dance has extended, that is, June to September.
―Have you ever been to Japan?
Formerly, I have visited Japan, and had a chance to watch Awa Dance Festival. Come to think of it, you have been talking about Kachashi in Bon Dance, don’t you think that the culture in Okinawa and that in Japanese mainland is different? In Eisa, the Lion dance comes in, and there are other new dances.
―What kind of students are there in your study?
The method of ethnology is common, but the subject varies. Some students become dancers and some become scholars after they graduate.
―Are you interested in modern dance, such as break dance?
Break dance. It is interesting. There are dancers who have magnificent talents in break dance. When it comes to the issue regarding “dance”, I am generous. How many members are there in your Shonan Bon Dance Workshop?
―Basically three. Although we collaborate with other various people…We are amateur group to the end.
Oh, I see. Although you call yourself amateur, you are doing a very interesting job.
―Thank you very much. We are very impressed to have a chance to talk about various topics with you today.
Near Alamoana Beach Park, August 8, 2008
- 1.The distribution of Bon Dance in the overseas.
- 2.Bon Dance of Hawaii – The distribution and characteristics
- 3.The parent body and the participants of Bon Dance
- 4.The schedule of Bon Dance
- 5.The location of Bon Dance
- 6. ”Dance Tunes” and their types
- 7.The composition and fashion of Bon Dance
- 8.The composition of “Odori-kyoku”-Hondo type and Okinawan type
- 9. Bon Dancing in Hawaii : The lyrics and refrains
- 10. Bon Dancing in Hawaii : History